The future of DesktopBSD

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by stan-sib, Jun 16, 2013.

  1. stan-sib

    stan-sib Well-Known Member

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    Many Linux distributors trying to adopt DragonFlyBSD and FreeBSD kernels in their environments. Linux Mint based on Ubuntu and Debian. There is good idea will releas desktopBSD in two edition:
    1 DragonFlyBSD
    2 FreeBSD
     
  2. conta

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    that would be hard to maintain
     
  3. stan-sib

    stan-sib Well-Known Member

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    Yes but If desktopBSD project will have enough developers and strong community that is possible.
     
  4. stan-sib

    stan-sib Well-Known Member

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    another promising direction to use DesktopBSD is the mobile technology.
     
  5. Shinobi_1986

    Shinobi_1986 New Member

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    First step would be to get a working and stable release of DBSD. Everything else could be started to plan as soon as a release is out.
    I can say that I really love Dragonfly BSD, but in my opinion it's better to be used as an Server OS, instead of a Desktop operating system. Just my opinion...
     
  6. Progers

    Progers Well-Known Member

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    First, i think we must make website look better,then start looking for developers that can try develop it at their free time. But its very hard to find some developers, because i think all of them are coding on Linux now!
     
  7. cpusci

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    Yeah well there's a few that aren't. Problem is people use linux because of it's popularity and "supported" ubiquity. I don't take much into it because most looking don't really know what they are looking at anyway. No offense meant to anyone on that one either.

    I would help contribute, if there was some clear notion of how to do so.
     
  8. Katlin MetaData

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    The issue you guys have is lazzyness. All you have to do is take FreeBSD and slap a DE you guys choose and add your art and icon set and done. That is basicly all that GhostBSD is. Also your site and forums are dead, seriosly look around most people have left, how many people have joined this year, not many. Most people think this distro is dead, even the website for DesktopBSD looks dead, and there has been no update to wikipida or distrowatch. Even the other BSD leaders think your dead. For example I asked chris moore the founder of PC-BSD and he was supprised it was still around as he did not hear any news about it or any new builds. I am not trying to be an ass, but this is a real issue. There has not even been an anoucement of what DE you are going to use, KDE 4, KDE 5, razor-qt (dead), lxde (dead), LXQT, MoonlightDE, Trinity, Lummina, we still have no news in 2 months, not even a blog post about devlopement, hell there is no news period, WTF. All you need is a BSD remaster tool you take the freebsd base install it, install the packages and then use the remaster tool and you have the system basicly done with the only thing to change being themes, icons, and login manager themes and you would be good, Then just test it and send the bugs to the freebsd guys and boom.
     
  9. EchoD

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    It's not laziness. The project used to be run by a few German guys who completely quit and let the domain expire. I bought the domain after noticing it was getting traffic, got the website and forums back up and started recruiting a new team. I am not an OS developer and have lots of other projects, so the best I can do is support the volunteers and keep the site running.

    We have several competent people now who want to help, but they're not very experienced in developing OS's. I don't even think they were able to locate the most recent source code. As soon as someone who knows what he or she is doing comes along and can manage the project, things will either pick up or not, but I'm not taking the site down.
     
  10. Katlin MetaData

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    yah, but all it takes is one guy are two to make a remaster program for freebsd, hell just fork relinux or remastersys and get it to work on Freebsd and I said above boom you are half way done and unlike other horibly slow projects like openindiana you don't have many people if any talking about it, even on IRC, and if there is one there is no real effort to make it known. I saw the hireing board and I am going why do they need so many people for a remaster project. and one guys found some tools for deskop bsd. Also I am curious why you would take on such a project in the first place haveing no experience. Again not trying to be mean as I tried doing the same thing once, and it did not go any where.
     
  11. EchoD

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    Because I'd rather have a "slow" site than have visitors redirected to spam or porn sites, which is what would have happened if we hadn't taken over the domain. At least this way people can have discussions on the forum.
     
  12. Spartacus

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    I don't normally join OS forums, but I really wanted to pipe in on this one. I've been a Linux user for some time now. I was previously Free BSD (back in version 5?), then shifted to Linux because I was tired of having to go though all of the hassle of installing, recompiling to add SMP support and sound, laying down X, etc. Linux provided a "one stop" solution to a working desktop.

    Now Linux is going all Gnome 3 and SystemD down my throat. Time to move on. I looked at Slackware and haven't ruled out Gentoo, so that I can avoid the force-feeding of stuff I don't like. I was also re-reviewing the BSDs in my search for "the perfect OS". That's how I landed here.

    IMHO, a good OS should give me a clean, polished desktop, with a reasonable browser, and the ability to rapidly install packages that I want. Maybe even some pre-selected options (a multimedia install with codecs, etc; a netbook install that's slim and functional).

    How difficult would it be to take a solid core, like FreeBSD, and lay that down; then build post-install scripts (one for multimedia, one for netbook, just as an example of the ones I mentioned before) that do a batch install/configuration of pre-selected packages needed for a clean, modern desktop? This avoids re-inventing the wheel. The scripts are user-editable if desired, so no one could say "you're forcing me into this path".

    CrunchBang did something like this....he used the base Debian install with Openbox WM, then ran a CrunchBang script once the Debian install completed. That walked the user through specific installs and customizations. The end product was a clean, functional CrunchBang system. (If they hadn't opted for SystemD, I'd still be using it.)

    Seems to me that this might be a quick foot in the door, with minimum need for Dev/QA. This would at least get the project rolling again. Once it gains some momentum, then you can work on building your own installer, your own repositories, etc.

    (But please avoid the PCBsd PBI nonsense!)


    And for what it's worth, I'll happily volunteer my time to install and test this sort of thing.

    -Keith
     
  13. tankist02

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    I am wondering why not join forces with GhostBSD? At least they produce something working and would benefit from extra hands.
     
  14. Angelescu Ovidiu

    Angelescu Ovidiu Team Member

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    Since DesktopBSD tools were QT3 based it won't work on modern KDE without a complete rewrite. A DesktopBSD without it's installer and witout dbsd tools it will be something else.
    It's not so hard to build a kde iso called "DesktopBSD" .
     
  15. droid2bsd88

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    I am not a "certified developer" however, I am willing to roll my sleeves up and get my hands dirty in some buggy code.